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“Storm in a teacup”: Cornes & King debate Cats concussion saga
By SEN
Kane Cornes believes the secret concussion waiver story is a “storm in a teacup”.
The bombshell story regards Geelong and a private agreement with an unnamed player with concussion history who would assume all the risk for any future brain injury.
Cornes and his Fireball co-host David King seriously debated the situation on Friday morning.
Read the back and forth between the pair below.
King: “Huge story.
“My first thoughts are I thought that safety was paramount, and that was the first and only rule - player safety.
“So are we putting finances ahead of that? Are we putting game day, the actual performance, ahead of that?
“Why are we here? And how have we got here? My question is: If there's nothing wrong with what's happened, there's no sanction, there's no fallout, there's nothing to see here, we made a mistake, that won't be happening again, we move on.
“Well, step us through what it was that happened. This is exactly how it went down - ‘Manager A went to manager B and said we've got to player here, and we're going to do this. There's a way we can get through this, we can do this’.
“Who had their fingerprints on that agreement from that point forward? Is what we need to know. I think we're entitled to know some of that information.”
Cornes: “I think it's one of the great storm in a teacup stories.
“Because it wasn't about player safety, the player was clear to play. I think I know how we got here.”
King: “You're talking safety short term. I'm talking health of the player.”
Cornes: “But every player puts themselves at risk and essentially signs away their safety when you go and play footy, because it's not a safety issue.”
King: “Yes it is, you’ve got to provide a safe workplace.”
Cornes:“I think every player should be signing a form like this because why should a club be liable when you are putting your hand up to take the risk to go and play AFL footy.
“Of course, there's certain protocols and steps and medical issues that you need to tick off if a player is concussed and for the health and the benefit of the player. They were doing all that.
“He's medically cleared to play. This is a club that has been facing legal action with Max Rooke for a number of years prior to this. Now, this player has probably gone, ‘I’m desperate to keep playing’. Geelong have probably said to him, ‘You know what, we're worried about your concussions. We're worried about whether we're going to re-sign you on the list. He said, ‘No, I'm right. I want to play. It's my risk. It's the risk I'm taking’. Geelong have said, ‘Well, you know what, if that's the case, then you take responsibility for that because we don't want to be liable when we are telling you it is a risk for you to keep playing and you sign this form to play’.
“I just think it was smart of Geelong. In the end, to protect themselves, like most clubs should be doing now. Did they tick every box? Did they get the PA involved? But if that’s the biggest error...”
King: “Why do you reckon Colombo, why do you reckon they didn’t?
“Just have a think about why do you think they didn't do that?”
Cornes: “Because it's not the standard practice.”
King: “It's outside of the CBA. It's never been a discussion piece anywhere.”
Cornes: “So this is the thing that frustrates me. Clearly concussion is so serious, I get that, but it's at the neglect of everything else.
“No one cares about internal organs. If this was Christian Petracca who had signed a waiver with Gold Coast to say, ‘Look, if I get hit again in the kidney, I'm taking that risk’. No one cares. No one worries about internal organs.
“If this is Cody Weightman who said, ‘You know what, I've had horrific stuff with my elbow and my knee, but I want to play again. I'm putting myself at risk. I'm signing a waiver. If my knee gets injured again, I'm copping’, this wouldn't even be a story.
“Because it's concussion it just gets to ridiculous levels. He's cleared to play. He's taken the risk. He signed the form. I think most clubs should be doing this in future.”
King: “It will never be seen again. Don't worry about most clubs doing it. It won't be seen again mate.”
Cornes: “But we've had these discussions. Why don't the clubs just get players to sign waivers? They're putting themselves at risk.”
King: “Because it's not legal. You've got to provide a safe workplace. You'd still have the Christians versus the Lions. You'd bring the old Colosseum back.”
Cornes: “There is no safe workplace. It's AFL footy. You can make it as safe as you can, you can put in the right protocol and steps to make it as safe as we can. The AFL has done a good job at changing the rules to make it safe.”
King: We're starting to. We're now adjusting training. We're catching up with the rest of the world. Best practice. This is the experts talking to us.”
Cornes: “I think every collision sport, even soccer with the headers, every sport that has an issue with head trauma has these issues.”
King: “Yeah, they're part of the game.”
Cornes: “You're always going to be at risk if you're a player.”
King: “And I think we accept that risk. We've accepted a risk, a level of risk.”
Cornes: “So isn't that all the player has done, accepted that risk?”
King: “No, I don't think that's right. I think that we need more information about how this has actually come about.
“I’d love to know whether it was player driven, club driven, what level of responsibility the manager had. I'd love to know all that.”
Cornes: “So you're not satisfied with the AFL have essentially said nothing to see here and you know they'll remove that little waiver and we'll move on.
“You're not happy with that?”
King: “No, I think we need more information. Moving on from what? What actually happened? Run us through the steps of what happened so that every club can either work out where they sit and what they would have done and we actually have best practice.
“I know you don't agree with the whole concussion discussion, you really don't. And it's quite alarming that you don’t, I’m disappointed you don't.
“We’ve got past players that are still struggling. The code is the workplace. And they aren't looking after former players like they should be. And this is why people like Peter Jess have to get involved to chase money for people who can't look after themselves, that their partners are feeding, walking, toileting.
“We can’t get money for those people. I’ve studied this a to, I’ve chased this information a lot. You need to be a full book on all this information because the dark side of it is dark.”
Cornes: “Don’t diminish my concern for those players.
“I know all that. But what is a player taking the risk to play a collision game…
“If you don’t want any head issues, if you don’t want any head knocks, we do not have a game.”
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